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Date: "2025-04-24"
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# Podcast recording — 2025-04-24
Recorded episode with Benedetta Vitali. Great conversation.

## Notes
- Episode theme: design systems engineering — building and scaling component libraries that actually get adopted across large organizations
- Benedetta shared her experience leading the design system team at a major European bank, including the governance model they developed to balance consistency with the flexibility that product teams need
- Her unique position bridging design and engineering gave the conversation a perspective that pure frontend or pure design guests rarely achieve — she could speak to the technical architecture of the component library, the design token strategy, and the organizational change management required to drive adoption
- Excellent first appearance; Benedetta is articulate, passionate about the topic, and brought numerous concrete examples from her work
- Memorable insight: "A design system nobody uses is just a museum of components. Adoption is the only metric that matters, and adoption requires empathy for the teams you are asking to change their workflow"
- Very clean audio; Benedetta recorded from a well-treated office space with professional equipment

## Follow-up
- [ ] Send thank-you email to Benedetta
- [ ] Draft show notes with the design system governance framework she outlined
- [ ] Schedule editing with [[person-paco-furiani]]
- [ ] Create social media clips — the museum of components line will resonate with frontend engineers
