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aliases: ["Podcast recording — 2024-03-28"]
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Date: "2024-03-28"
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Tags: ["Work", "Podcast"]
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# Podcast recording — 2024-03-28
Recorded episode with Andrea Provaglio. Great conversation.

## Notes
- Episode theme: systems thinking applied to engineering organizations — treating teams as complex adaptive systems rather than machines
- Andrea drew on his coaching background to explain why traditional management approaches fail in knowledge work, using examples from organizations he has worked with across Europe and the US
- His perspective as both a former developer and an organizational coach gave the conversation a depth that purely technical guests rarely achieve — he challenged several assumptions I had about team productivity metrics
- The session ran about 20 minutes over our planned time, but the extra content is some of the strongest material we have recorded this quarter; will likely split into a two-part episode
- Powerful insight: "You cannot optimize a system by optimizing its parts independently. Every time you speed up one team, you create a bottleneck somewhere else"
- Audio quality was excellent; Andrea recorded from his home studio with professional-grade equipment

## Follow-up
- [ ] Send thank-you email to Andrea and discuss whether he is open to a follow-up part two
- [ ] Draft show notes — consider splitting into two episodes given the length and density of content
- [ ] Schedule editing with [[person-paco-furiani]] and flag the two-part option
- [ ] Create social media clips from the systems thinking segment
