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aliases: ["Podcast recording — 2025-03-27"]
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Date: "2025-03-27"
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# Podcast recording — 2025-03-27
Recorded episode with Elena Konstantinou. Great conversation.

## Notes
- Episode theme: fourth session with Elena — Q1 2025 platform engineering retrospective and preview of her keynote at the upcoming KubeCon Europe
- Elena previewed the core thesis of her KubeCon talk: that the platform engineering movement is at a critical inflection point where it either matures into a genuine discipline with standards and career paths, or fragments into vendor-driven hype
- She shared early data from a survey of 500 platform teams she conducted, showing that teams with a dedicated platform product manager ship internal tools that see 3x higher adoption than those run purely by infrastructure engineers
- Elena is now firmly one of our marquee recurring guests; the audience engagement on her episodes consistently outperforms our average by 40 percent
- Standout quote: "A platform without a product manager is just infrastructure with a landing page. Users do not adopt platforms — they adopt solutions to their problems"
- Audio quality continues to be excellent; Elena has fully dialed in her recording setup at this point

## Follow-up
- [ ] Send thank-you email to Elena and coordinate timing with her KubeCon talk for maximum impact
- [ ] Draft show notes with preview of the survey results
- [ ] Schedule editing with [[person-paco-furiani]] — prioritize fast turnaround to align with KubeCon timing
- [ ] Create social media clips and coordinate cross-promotion with KubeCon
