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aliases: ["Podcast recording — 2024-05-09"]
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Date: "2024-05-09"
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Related to: ["[[person-francesca-deluca]]"]
Tags: ["Work", "Podcast"]
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# Podcast recording — 2024-05-09
Recorded episode with Francesca De Luca. Great conversation.

## Notes
- Episode theme: the art and science of API design — building interfaces that developers actually want to use
- Francesca shared lessons from designing the public API at her developer tools company, including the decision to adopt a spec-first approach with OpenAPI and how that changed their entire development workflow
- Her background in both backend engineering and developer advocacy meant she could speak fluently about technical trade-offs while keeping the conversation accessible to a broader audience
- Very polished session — Francesca clearly prepared well and brought specific examples and anecdotes; the episode practically edits itself
- Memorable quote: "A good API is like a good joke — if you have to explain it, it is not working"
- Pristine audio quality on both ends; Francesca recorded from a professional podcast studio

## Follow-up
- [ ] Send thank-you email to Francesca
- [ ] Draft show notes with the API design principles she outlined as a checklist
- [ ] Schedule editing with [[person-paco-furiani]]
- [ ] Create social media clips — the API-as-joke analogy will play well on social
