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aliases: ["Podcast recording — 2024-03-14"]
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Date: "2024-03-14"
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# Podcast recording — 2024-03-14
Recorded episode with Matteo Gentile. Great conversation.

## Notes
- Episode theme: the role of technical debt in product strategy and how to make it visible to non-technical stakeholders
- Matteo presented a framework he developed for quantifying technical debt in terms of opportunity cost — translating code complexity metrics into projected delays on upcoming features
- His dual background in software architecture and product management made this an unusually business-oriented conversation for the show, which is a welcome change of pace
- Strong recording session with natural back-and-forth; Matteo is an engaging storyteller who illustrates abstract concepts with concrete war stories from his consulting work
- Memorable line: "Technical debt is not a mess you made — it's a loan you took. The problem is most teams never read the interest rate"
- Audio was solid throughout; both on Riverside with backup tracks, no issues detected

## Follow-up
- [ ] Send thank-you email to Matteo and request his debt quantification spreadsheet template for the show notes
- [ ] Draft show notes focusing on the framework and practical takeaways
- [ ] Schedule editing with [[person-paco-furiani]]
