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aliases: ["Podcast recording — 2024-12-05"]
Is A: Event
Date: "2024-12-05"
Belongs to: "[[2024-12]]"
Related to: ["[[person-elena-konstantinou]]"]
Tags: ["Work", "Podcast"]
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# Podcast recording — 2024-12-05
Recorded episode with Elena Konstantinou. Great conversation.

## Notes
- Episode theme: third session with Elena — year-end retrospective on platform engineering trends, what lived up to the hype and what fizzled
- Elena reviewed the major platform engineering developments of 2024, from the continued maturation of Backstage to the rise of score-based developer productivity frameworks, providing a candid assessment of each trend's staying power
- Her hands-on perspective was invaluable — she could compare vendor marketing claims against what she actually experienced deploying these tools across multiple organizations throughout the year
- Fun and opinionated session that felt like a natural end-of-year wrap-up; good energy and plenty of strong takes that will generate discussion in the comments
- Memorable quote: "Platform engineering in 2024 was like DevOps in 2014 — everyone says they are doing it, most people are just renaming their ops team, and the ones actually doing it well are too busy to tweet about it"
- Excellent audio; Elena's setup has gotten progressively better across her three appearances

## Follow-up
- [ ] Send thank-you email to Elena and discuss scheduling her as a regular quarterly guest
- [ ] Draft show notes as a 2024 platform engineering scorecard format
- [ ] Schedule editing with [[person-paco-furiani]] — aim for release before the holiday break
- [ ] Create social media clips — the trend predictions format works well for year-end engagement
